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scott_williams 02-29-2016 08:55 AM

New player?
 
Is this a new player?

http://genedrabio.com/en/instruments.php

GenoMax 02-29-2016 09:05 AM

Your guess is as good as ours :-)

I wonder if this is an "illumina" clone meant only for the asian markets (like some phones out there). Illustration looks suspiciously like a GAIIx.

NextGenSeq 02-29-2016 10:32 AM

Copying 10 year old technology doesn't seem very new to me.

dannyhi321 02-29-2016 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenoMax (Post 190087)
Your guess is as good as ours :-)

I wonder if this is an "illumina" clone meant only for the asian markets (like some phones out there). Illustration looks suspiciously like a GAIIx.

Suspicious ..yes..

Plagiarism, hypocrisy AND racism…classy!

HESmith 02-29-2016 12:29 PM

From the 'Investors' page:

"We will start by fulfilling the research needs in Asia…"

Is it really racist to note that some products are available only in certain markets?

scott_williams 03-01-2016 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HESmith (Post 190100)
From the 'Investors' page:

"We will start by fulfilling the research needs in Asia…"

Is it really racist to note that some products are available only in certain markets?

Maybe they have IP issues outside of Asia?

dannyhi321 03-02-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HESmith (Post 190100)
From the 'Investors' page:

"We will start by fulfilling the research needs in Asia…"

Is it really racist to note that some products are available only in certain markets?

In the light of the following information, yes I would say so, someone should inform Illumina, if they are not already aware.:-

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gringer 03-02-2016 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NextGenSeq (Post 190096)
Copying 10 year old technology doesn't seem very new to me.

The initial patent around the MinION technology is about 20 years old....

dannyhi321 03-02-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gringer (Post 190217)
The initial patent around the MinION technology is about 20 years old....

Do you have a ref for that? I would find it useful and interesting, as I am sure, many others will.

NextGenSeq 03-02-2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gringer (Post 190217)
The initial patent around the MinION technology is about 20 years old....

But this company is using SBS chemistry which is basically a modification of Sanger sequencing which is about 40 years old.

NextGenSeq 03-02-2016 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyhi321 (Post 190218)
Do you have a ref for that? I would find it useful and interesting, as I am sure, many others will.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...rouded-mystery

gringer 03-02-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyhi321 (Post 190218)
Do you have a ref for that? I would find it useful and interesting, as I am sure, many others will.

https://www.google.com/patents/US5795782 (1995)

GenoMax 03-02-2016 12:16 PM

If genedrabio has actually managed to reverse-engineer SBS chemistry (even for GAII) then that may be a feat in itself.

There is more information about SBS here: http://www.genedrabio.com/en/seq_reagents.php

Are Illumina's original patents on this expiring?

scott_williams 03-02-2016 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannyhi321 (Post 190216)
In the light of the following information, yes I would say so, someone should inform Illumina, if they are not already aware.:-

Domain Name: genedrabio.com
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Tseegii Baasanjav
Registrant Organization: Gendra Biotech, Inc.
Registrant Street: 4730 Milano Way
Registrant Street: CA
Registrant City: Oceanside
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 92087
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8585252770
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
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A company is registered on this same address by J. O. Adams

http://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2m2...ument-labs-ltd

Appears to be the same person associated with Azco, polonator and Max-Seq

https://www.genomeweb.com/sequencing...urch-polonator

https://www.genomeweb.com/sequencing...-short-read-se

scott_williams 03-07-2016 07:40 AM

Additional info on mr J. O. Adams

"Beijing Dragon Tech Biotechnology Limited (GenendraBiotech) to focus on second-generation sequencing (NGS), and for the field of science, protein molecular genomics, molecular biology, the genome, providing testing equipment, SBS Reagent Pack, entrapping packet sequence, molecular chemistry test package, PCR and real-time PCR instruments, gel electrophoresis systems, core technology competitive products. Companies academic leaders and CEOJMr. ADAMS scientists have several degrees and many years of relevant experience in molecular biology, biochemistry, genomics, etc., worked in related fields published several academic papers, and won the Nobel Prize, founded in the United States also successfully live their genomic tools company."

Has he really won the nobel prize?


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