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  • arkilis
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 119

    #1

    how to do reference based de novo assembly using velvet

    As above.

    Currently need to do a de novo assembly, but don't know how to use a reference in the velveth. : |


    Thanks for your reply!
    Last edited by arkilis; 12-01-2013, 11:01 PM.
  • arkilis
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 119

    #2
    I got some tips after google.

    velveth run 31 -reference PHAC_sample_2.txt -shortPaired -fastq.gz 1_001.fastq.gz 2_001.fastq.gz &
    But always got some error like:

    Incomplete Sequences file (computeHSPScores)
    Does anyone got any idea on this? Thanks a lot!

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    • mastal
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 666

      #3
      I haven't seen that error message before,

      but usually when running velveth either you interleave the files containing R1 and R2, or you specify -separate if the R1 and R2 reads are in separate files.

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      • ctseto
        Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 44

        #4
        Google for "Velvet Columbus", which is the reference-guided de novo assembly pipeline.

        (Though on the off-chance you get weird results)

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        • kmcarr
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 1181

          #5
          Originally posted by arkilis View Post
          Currently need to do a de novo assembly, but don't know how to use a reference in the velveth.
          Then you should probably read the Columbus_manual.pdf which is included in the velvet distribution tar file.

          Basically you're doing it wrong. To do reference guided assembly in velvet you first align your reads to the reference with something like bowtie or bwa and then input the aligned read file (SAM) along with the reference file (FASTA) to velveth. You can not go directly from reads to reference guided assembly with velvet, prealignment is required.

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          • arkilis
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 119

            #6
            Originally posted by ctseto View Post
            Google for "Velvet Columbus", which is the reference-guided de novo assembly pipeline.

            (Though on the off-chance you get weird results)

            http://bioweb2.pasteur.fr/docs/velve...bus_manual.pdf
            Thanks for your advices.

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            • arkilis
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 119

              #7
              Originally posted by kmcarr View Post
              Then you should probably read the Columbus_manual.pdf which is included in the velvet distribution tar file.

              Basically you're doing it wrong. To do reference guided assembly in velvet you first align your reads to the reference with something like bowtie or bwa and then input the aligned read file (SAM) along with the reference file (FASTA) to velveth. You can not go directly from reads to reference guided assembly with velvet, prealignment is required.
              Hi I found out that if I use the -separate option, that will be fine. No such error anymore. But the N50 is pertty lame (only 100, kmer 103). I read the http://bioweb2.pasteur.fr/docs/velve...bus_manual.pdf you mentioned, but there is no clue on do alignment before velvet assembly. Why you suggest to do that? thx

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              • kmcarr
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 1181

                #8
                Originally posted by arkilis View Post
                I read the http://bioweb2.pasteur.fr/docs/velve...bus_manual.pdf you mentioned, but there is no clue on do alignment before velvet assembly. Why you suggest to do that? thx
                On page 2, section 3 "Overview of the process", step 1 says
                Map the reads against a set of target sequences (typically, an entire reference genome, made up of chromosomal sequences).
                Step 4 then says
                Provide this FASTA file along with the SAM/BAM alignment file
                ("this FASTA file means the reference file")

                Pretty clear indication that alignment is the first step and you input the reference and alignment, not the read fastq files.

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                • arkilis
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 119

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kmcarr View Post
                  On page 2, section 3 "Overview of the process", step 1 says

                  Step 4 then says ("this FASTA file means the reference file")

                  Pretty clear indication that alignment is the first step and you input the reference and alignment, not the read fastq files.

                  Genius, I did not read the manual carefully. But when I run the velveth with columbus, I got:

                  "WARNING: None of your read mappings recognized the reference sequence!"

                  Is that mean I got the wrong reference file or does not recognized at all?
                  Last edited by arkilis; 12-04-2013, 09:55 PM.

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