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  • GW_OK
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 411

    Lotsa new toys from Illumina: HiSeq X Five, 3000, 4000, NextSeq 550

    Hiseq 4000
    Hiseq 3000
    Nextseq 550
    HiseqX 5

  • Brian Bushnell
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2014
    • 2709

    #2
    Any idea if the HS4000/5000 are using 4-color or 2-color chemistry?

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    • GW_OK
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 411

      #3
      I think that's Nextseq only?
      Looks to me like they've just stuck HiseqX-style flowcells in the 2500 system.

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      • Brian Bushnell
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2014
        • 2709

        #4
        Except that I'm pretty sure the X-series do use 2-dye chemistry, the same as NextSeq...

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        • GenoMax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 7142

          #5
          Originally posted by GW_OK View Post
          I think that's Nextseq only?
          Looks to me like they've just stuck HiseqX-style flowcells in the 2500 system.
          Possible upgrade path for current 2500 owners?

          I am not going to hold my breath though.

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          • GW_OK
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 411

            #6
            Originally posted by Brian Bushnell View Post
            Except that I'm pretty sure the X-series do use 2-dye chemistry, the same as NextSeq...
            Can't find any literature that says anything other than the Nextseq uses 2 colors. In fact, isn't this why the Nextseq currently has GC problems? Haven't heard anything about that with the HiseqX...

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            • GW_OK
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 411

              #7
              Originally posted by GenoMax View Post
              Possible upgrade path for current 2500 owners?

              I am not going to hold my breath though.

              LOL, just like I was able to upgrade my v2-camera 2500's for the v4 chemistry....

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              • westerman
                Rick Westerman
                • Jun 2008
                • 1104

                #8
                New toys for one person is a funding/migration headache for another. Especially if there is no upgrade path. :-(

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                • ECO
                  --Site Admin--
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1360

                  #9
                  Made the title more explicit and promoted to the front page...

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                  • SNPsaurus
                    Registered Vendor
                    • May 2013
                    • 525

                    #10
                    This http://blog.illumina.com/blog/illumi...eq-4000-system says the 4000 uses 4-color.

                    This http://www.illumina.com/content/dam/...0-2014-057.pdf says that 1 flowcell does 50 transcriptomes per run at 50M reads each, so that is >300M reads per lane. Looks faster as well, if the longest run time is 3.5 days (not sure if that would be for 1x150bp or 2x150bp).
                    Providing nextRAD genotyping and PacBio sequencing services. http://snpsaurus.com

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                    • nucacidhunter
                      Jafar Jabbari
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1250

                      #11
                      There are data from PCR-free, RNA-Seq and NRC libraries sequenced on HiSeq 4000 in BaseSpace.

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                      • SNPsaurus
                        Registered Vendor
                        • May 2013
                        • 525

                        #12
                        Heard from someone that the cluster and reagent kits are similar in price to current Hiseq 2000 reagents, which would mean the price per read is quite a bit lower.
                        Providing nextRAD genotyping and PacBio sequencing services. http://snpsaurus.com

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                        • HeinKey
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 21

                          #13
                          #SNPsaurus:
                          I assume it will be 2x 150 bp in 3.5 days.
                          2.1 to 2.5 billion clusters per flow cell, in a 2x150 bp run is 630 - 750 Gb.
                          With a speed >200Gb per day a 2x 150 bp run will take 3.5 days.

                          I wonder if we can upgrade the 2500 V4 machine to a 4000 version...

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                          • kmcarr
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 1181

                            #14
                            It looks to me that the 3000/4000 only accept 8 lane flow cells (high-output). If true then the trade off for throughput is flexibility.

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                            • austinso
                              Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 77

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GenoMax View Post
                              Possible upgrade path for current 2500 owners?

                              I am not going to hold my breath though.
                              Ditto. I think supporting the patterned flow-cells would require too much of a reworking of the guts...

                              Seems like they are following the Apple product release model...

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