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  • gurtecho
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 4

    Bacterial RNA-seq Spike-in Controls

    Hello,

    I recently learned of RNA spike-in controls and am interested in incorporating them into my sequencing runs. I primarily use RNA-seq to measure gene expression levels in E. coli.

    My question is, are their RNA spike-in controls similar to those by the ERCC available for bacterial studies? If not, could you provide me with a suggestion on how to control for batch effects between sequencing runs?

    Thank you
  • blancha
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 367

    #2
    I'm very skeptical on the value of ERCC spike-ins.
    I don't see the value of a control that cannot be fully trusted.

    More than one study has questioned the validity of ERCC spike-ins.



    My own, albeit limited, experience with spike-ins confirms the results of these studies.

    What is the point of the extra cost of adding the spike-ins, to end up with unreliable data requiring extra analysis?

    It's a nice concept, but I don't think the real-world results support the wide-spread use of the ERCC spike-ins.

    NGS is not like microarrays either. The batch effect is not as huge a problem between sequencing runs as it is for microarrays prepared at different times. Any batch effect, if present, would be more likely to result from manipulations prior to the sequencing itself.

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    One way of controlling for any potential batch effect, albeit perhaps not cost-effective, would be to distribute the replicates across the sequencing runs. If you could verify that the replicates within the same sequencing run had the same correlation as replicates across sequencing runs, you could confidently discount any batch effect. Even if you did pick up a batch effect, in theory, it would be possible to correct it. I've used Combat, with some success in the past, to reduce the batch effect in microarray samples with replicates distributed thus between the different preparation times. Again, this may be too expensive for NGS, and less necessary, given the reduced batch effect.
    Last edited by blancha; 12-04-2015, 08:35 PM.

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    • Adiro
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2019
      • 4

      #3
      I'm wondering if anything changed...

      Anyone has an updated answer?

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