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  • sandhya
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 11

    Fastq format and Paired-end reads

    Dear all,

    I have recently started work on sequenced data. We have paired-end reads from Illumina in Fastq format and I had some questions about these.

    1. In the fastq format, what do the numbers in the 1st line mean?
    @0:1:1:34:429
    GAAGNAAAAATAAAAGCATTAGNAGAAATTTGTACA
    +
    IIII$IIIII&IIIIIIIIIII$IIIIIIIIIIIII

    2. I see that these numbers (or 1st lines) always have a one-to-one mapping between the 2 paired datasets (ie for left and right reads). Therefore is it right to say that the 1st entry in dataset1 (of left reads) is paired with the 1st entry in dataset2 (of right reads) and likewise?

    Please advice.
  • maubp
    Peter (Biopython etc)
    • Jul 2009
    • 1544

    #2
    Originally posted by sandhya View Post
    Dear all,

    I have recently started work on sequenced data. We have paired-end reads from Illumina in Fastq format and I had some questions about these.

    1. In the fastq format, what do the numbers in the 1st line mean?
    @0:1:1:34:429
    GAAGNAAAAATAAAAGCATTAGNAGAAATTTGTACA
    +
    IIII$IIIII&IIIIIIIIIII$IIIIIIIIIIIII
    In general FASTQ identifiers like FASTA identifiers can mean anything. In this case, they tell you about where on the slide this read came from, see:


    Originally posted by sandhya View Post
    2. I see that these numbers (or 1st lines) always have a one-to-one mapping between the 2 paired datasets (ie for left and right reads). Therefore is it right to say that the 1st entry in dataset1 (of left reads) is paired with the 1st entry in dataset2 (of right reads) and likewise?

    Please advice.
    Yes, there should be a one-to-one mapping between the forward reads file and the reverse reads file. i.e. Same fragments in same order.

    P.S. It is also common for the Illumina forward reads to have a /1 suffix, and the reverse reads to have a /2 suffix. Yours don't for some reason.

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    • sandhya
      Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 11

      #3
      Thank you, maubp for the reply. In the wiki it is mentioned that Illumina uses a /1 or /2 suffix. Are there cases when the suffix is not present or does this mean these are not Illumina-generated reads?

      Infact when I used Novoalign to read the fastq file, it summarised the file as 'Interpreting input files as Sanger FASTQ'. So it could be that the files are Sanger-generated. Please let me know if this is right.

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      • simonandrews
        Simon Andrews
        • May 2009
        • 870

        #4
        Originally posted by sandhya View Post
        Infact when I used Novoalign to read the fastq file, it summarised the file as 'Interpreting input files as Sanger FASTQ'. So it could be that the files are Sanger-generated. Please let me know if this is right.
        'Sanger FastQ' refers to the encoding scheme for the quality scores in the file. There are a few different ways this can be done and Illumina have their own encoding scheme(s), so you're probably correct in thinking these don't come directly from an Illumina run. Having said that, I think the main sequence repositories convert all qualities to Sanger encoding so it could be an Illumina file which has passed through a repository.

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        • sandhya
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 11

          #5
          I understand the sentences separately but when I read them together I find them contradictory. Please let me know about any reading material to familiarise with these concepts. Again what does 'main sequence repositories' mean?
          Nevertheless, I was able to read in the datasets using R with the 'fastq' format. So guess I can continue with the programming

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          • simonandrews
            Simon Andrews
            • May 2009
            • 870

            #6
            Originally posted by sandhya View Post
            I understand the sentences separately but when I read them together I find them contradictory. Please let me know about any reading material to familiarise with these concepts.
            The wikipedia article on FastQ format summarises the different versions pretty well.

            Originally posted by sandhya View Post
            Again what does 'main sequence repositories' mean?
            Places like the NCBI short read archive or the European nucleotide archive. They will keep their data in a single encoding format (Sanger) to avoid this kind of confusion, so Illumina data submitted to them will have its quality encoding changed.

            Originally posted by sandhya View Post
            Nevertheless, I was able to read in the datasets using R with the 'fastq' format. So guess I can continue with the programming
            It's worth checking that you used the correct options. It's possible to read quality values using the wrong encoding and get no errors, but find that you've recorded the qualities incorrectly (though probably not by much in most cases).

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            • sandhya
              Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 11

              #7
              Oh I see. Thank you for forewarning me about that. I shall keep this in mind and see if there is a workaround for it in R.

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              • stoker
                Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 17

                #8
                Originally posted by maubp View Post
                Yes, there should be a one-to-one mapping between the forward reads file and the reverse reads file. i.e. Same fragments in same order.
                What about the case if my pair end fastq files have different number of reads (Illumina GAIIx)? Could you suggest any software to find common part?
                Tomasz Stokowy
                www.sequencing.io.gliwice.pl

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                • luanalirac
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 2

                  #9
                  FASTQ format paired-and (R1 and R2)

                  Holla, everyone!
                  I have a question . I am starting my work with data of the illumina, and my first challenge is combine reads R1 and R2, of the fastQ (datas raw). I can know if them are combined? each one have 14 Mb. Would like if them are sum (14MB +14Mb = about 28Mb) or I am deceived?

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                  • mastal
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 666

                    #10
                    Originally posted by luanalirac View Post
                    Holla, everyone!
                    I have a question . I am starting my work with data of the illumina, and my first challenge is combine reads R1 and R2, of the fastQ (datas raw). I can know if them are combined? each one have 14 Mb. Would like if them are sum (14MB +14Mb = about 28Mb) or I am deceived?

                    Yes, if you combine the files, they should be about twice the size,
                    but why do you want to combine R1 and R2? What do you want to do with your data?

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                    • luanalirac
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 2

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mastal View Post
                      Yes, if you combine the files, they should be about twice the size,
                      but why do you want to combine R1 and R2? What do you want to do with your data?
                      Thank you very much, You help me a lot.
                      I want submit to MG-RAST to annotation automatic!
                      This sequences are RNAm. I want see gene expression in environmental sample, and first step will annotation of the MG-RAST.
                      You have any suggestion?
                      Last edited by luanalirac; 07-03-2013, 04:57 AM.

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