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  • daler
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 8

    DESeq versions: mimic 1.4.1 with 1.6.1 settings?

    I am unable to replicate DESeq v1.4.1 results using v1.6.1, even when using the settings that -- as far as I can tell from the docs -- should replicate the old behavior. Here's a self-contained working example . . . but it needs parallel installations of R 2.13.1 and R 2.14.0 in order to work.

    First, I created data using only v1.6.1 and saved it to file:

    Code:
    library(DESeq)
    cds <- makeExampleCountDataSet()
    write.table(counts(cds), file='example.counts')

    In R 2.13.1 I ran DESeq v1.4.1:
    Code:
    library(DESeq)
    x <- read.table('example.counts')
    conds <- c('A', 'A','B','B','B')
    cds <- newCountDataSet(x, conds)
    cds <- estimateSizeFactors(cds)
    
    cds <- estimateVarianceFunctions(cds, method='normal')
    
    res <- nbinomTest(cds, 'A', 'B')
    write.table(res, file='old.results', sep='\t', row.names=F)
    Then, over in R 2.14.0, I ran DESeq v1.6.1. Note that everything except the "estimateDispersions" line is the same:
    Code:
    library(DESeq)
    x <- read.table('example.counts')
    conds <- c('A', 'A','B','B','B')
    cds <- newCountDataSet(x, conds)
    cds <- estimateSizeFactors(cds)
    cds <- estimateSizeFactors(cds)
    
    cds <- estimateDispersions(cds, sharingMode='fit-only', 
                               fitType='local', method='per-condition')
    
    res <- nbinomTest(cds, 'A', 'B')
    write.table(res, file='new.results', sep='\t', row.names=F)
    When I compare new.results with old.results, basemeanA, basemeanB, and the fold change columns are identical.

    However, the pval and padj columns are different; plotting them results in two straight-ish lines on either side of the 1:1 (see attached PNG):

    Code:
    new = read.table('new.results', header=T)
    old = read.table('old.results', header=T)
    plot(new$pval, old$pval)
    abline(0, 1, col='red')
    What could be causing this discrepancy? Are there other parameters to estimateDispersions that I'm missing? Has something changed in nbinomTest between versions?

    -ryan
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  • Simon Anders
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 995

    #2
    Yes, we did change 'nbinomTest'. It used to employ an approximation that usually would only be a few percent off (which, for p values, does not matter; one is only interested ion the magnitude, after all), but gave in a few rare cases drastically wrong results. Realizing that this approximation was not really necessary anyway, we removed it. See the end of the new vignette, by the way, for a summary of this and related changes.

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    • daler
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 8

      #3
      Ah, your explanation here plus the note in the vignette (which I somehow missed) clears it up -- thanks.

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