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  • stanwish
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 2

    #16
    Haha, same question here.
    I followed the review protocol paper and used almost same command as kenietz, the gene_exp.diff combined several genes together but the isoform_exp.diff is normal.

    Does anyone have any idea on it?

    Thanks.



    Originally posted by kenietz View Post
    Hi guys,
    very interesting thread. I have one question though. What about the merging of genes when they are very close on the same strand?

    ------- from gene_exp.diff ---------
    AT1G01225,AT1G01230 Chr1:95986-99240
    ----------------------------------------

    when actually gene AT1G01225 is 95987-97407 and AT1G01230 is 97456-99240. But the merged.gtf says that AT1G01225 is contained in AT1G01230. Cant get that

    I have WT and MUT and my flow for both is like that:
    >tophat -p 4 -o tophat_wt -G TAIR_9.gff ~/Work_drive/Genomes/TAIR_9/TAIR_9_rg WT-1.fq.gz
    >cufflinks -o cuffl_wt -p 4 -g TAIR_9.gff tophat_wt/accepted_hits.bam

    Then:
    >cuffmerge -p 4 -s TAIR_9_rg.fa -g TAIR_9.gff assemblies.txt
    >cuffdiff -p 4 -o cuffdiff_out -L WT,MUT tophat_wt/accepted_hits.bam tophat_mut/accepted_hits.bam

    Contents of 'assemblies.txt":
    cuffl_wt/transcripts.gtf
    cuffl_mut/transcripts.gtf

    I saw somewhere on the forum that -g should be used with cufflinks in order to do RABT and solve the issue with merging of genes. But i see its not working so. So now is advised to run cufflink without any -g or -G option and then give the reference annotation to cuffmerge only?

    Thank you for you help

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    • billstevens
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 120

      #17
      Hi guys,

      I have a question on read depth. Cole has mentioned that cuffdiff only tests when there are at least 10 fragments in one of the conditions. Which output file tests that? I was thinking it was genes.count_tracking. However, I checked this when I had only 100M reads versus 200M reads, and both times I ended up with the same number of genes over 10 fragments.

      Anyone know how to check read depth?

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      • swaraj
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 50

        #18
        I have a question about cuffmerge and cuffcompare. I have three samples and have independently assembled each using cufflinks. I am only interested in intergenic long non-coding RNA transcripts.

        My samples are developmental stages. Is there a possibility that if I use cuffmerge to combine the assembled gtf from each sample, I run the risk of merging transcript A expressed in sample1 with transcript B expressed in sample2, where A is contained within B.

        I would say I want the two transcripts to be reported separately as probably they have same splicing pattern but alternative promoters during two different stages of development.

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        • son_nexg
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 8

          #19
          Hi all,

          I ran into a problem while using the cuffmerge. A transcript of my interest was their in three individual cufflinks assemblies (.gtf) but it got lost when I merged them using the cuffmerge. Here is how the transfrags looked post cufflinks step:
          9 Cufflinks transcript 3475480 3479343 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; FPKM "240.6680251912";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3475480 3475720 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "1";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3477006 3477014 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "2";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3477092 3478113 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "3";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478293 3478537 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "4";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478728 3478827 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "5";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478959 3479343 1000 + . gene_id "A_L004__R1.14999"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "6";
          9 Cufflinks transcript 3475480 3479343 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; FPKM "303.9854176646";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3475480 3475720 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "1";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3477006 3477014 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "2";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3477092 3478113 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "3";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478293 3478537 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "4";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478728 3478827 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "5";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478959 3479343 1000 + . gene_id "B_L004_R1.14955"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "6";
          9 Cufflinks transcript 3475480 3479343 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; FPKM "264.2356132737";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3475480 3475720 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "1";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3477006 3477014 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "2";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3477092 3478113 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "3";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478293 3478537 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "4";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478728 3478827 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "5";
          9 Cufflinks exon 3478959 3479343 1000 + . gene_id "C_L004_R1.15064"; transcript_id "Solyc09g010080.2.1"; exon_number "6";


          but this particular transcript (Solyc09g010080.2) does not exist in the final merged.gtf.

          I used -g and -s options with cuffmerge.

          Does anyone has a guess why that would happen?

          Thanks in advance for your help.
          Cheers!

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          • sdriscoll
            I like code
            • Sep 2009
            • 436

            #20
            Looking at the dates of the questions, and the lack of responses, in this thread I get the feeling that the cufflinks developers are quietly waiting for people to stop using their tools. This combined with their google user group silence makes me wonder...is there a future for these tools?
            /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
            Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

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            • ron128
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 38

              #21
              Originally posted by sdriscoll View Post
              Looking at the dates of the questions, and the lack of responses, in this thread I get the feeling that the cufflinks developers are quietly waiting for people to stop using their tools. This combined with their google user group silence makes me wonder...is there a future for these tools?
              Amen! Couldnt agree more!

              IMHO though, Cufflinks-tophat is still a very viable option, inspite of the developers silence!

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              • Gonza
                Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 78

                #22
                Dear All,

                Basic question. I run tuxedo without using cuffcompare. Used tophat2 --> cufflinks --> cuffmerge --> cuffdiff --> R.
                Data looks good, makes sense. However, I cannot figure out how to have access to 8.1.1 Gene Feature plots (http://compbio.mit.edu/cummeRbund/manual_2_0.html)

                For example, I do :

                myGeneId<-"XLOC_012114"
                myGene<-getGene(cuff_data,myGeneId)
                myGene
                XLOC_012114 <-expressionPlot(myGene)
                XLOC_012114

                head(fpkm(myGene))
                head(fpkm(isoforms(myGene))) # up to here all works

                head(features(myGene))# not working yet
                genetrack<-makeGeneRegionTrack(myGene) # not working yet
                plotTracks(genetrack) # not working yet

                Is this because i did not use cuffcomare? should I rerun the analysis? Is that critical to use cuffcompare?

                Please let me know what you think
                Thanks in advance

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