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  • DRYTCYV
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 50

    #61
    Originally posted by lac302 View Post
    My last run worked fine even overclustered at 1800k/mm2, 85%PF.
    I got one of that cartridges

    Our FAS said that Illumina wants to release "the new" V3 kit after Summer.
    The last V3 kit we used as a V2 2x250 cycles, the difference is that the V3 got more tiles, so, more data even with the 2x250.

    V2 kit its the best kit, in terms of quality and less sensible to overclustering. If Illumina change the V2 kit tiles from 28 to 38 tiles, it would be the best of both worlds.

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    • dannyhi321
      Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 51

      #62
      Originally posted by lac302 View Post
      Is this only an issue for amplicon sequencing? I haven't run a V3 600 cycle kit in a few months but have a library to sequence next week...WGS, FastQ only.

      My last run worked fine even overclustered at 1800k/mm2, 85%PF.

      I typically run the 600 cycle kits at 2x275. Quality over quantity is fine for my needs.
      I think you will find your logic is unsound, a 2x300 kit that only "works" at 2x275 "sometimes" is not quality!

      Do you think you could share the Q Score graphs? would be interesting!

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      • Shimul
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2017
        • 8

        #63
        Hello there,

        I am running my bacterial library using Miseq V3. The Q30 is now 83.1% after 250 cycles, yesterday it was 96% after 70 cycles. But rest of the parameters are consistent: clusters PF 91.4%, cluster density 1092K/mm^2, which are the same as yesterday. Do you speculate anything? DO you think that the run will be still okay?

        Many thanks.

        Shimul

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        • Brian Bushnell
          Super Moderator
          • Jan 2014
          • 2709

          #64
          Illumina's "Q30" values are completely fabricated; I suggest you ignore them. If you want to know the actual quality of your reads, you need to map them. For example:

          bbmap.sh in=reads.fq ref=ref.fa mhist=mhist.txt qhist=qhist.txt qahist=qahist.txt

          This will give you histograms of the actual quality of your reads.

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          • nucacidhunter
            Jafar Jabbari
            • Jan 2013
            • 1250

            #65
            Originally posted by Shimul View Post
            Hello there,

            I am running my bacterial library using Miseq V3. The Q30 is now 83.1% after 250 cycles, yesterday it was 96% after 70 cycles. But rest of the parameters are consistent: clusters PF 91.4%, cluster density 1092K/mm^2, which are the same as yesterday. Do you speculate anything? DO you think that the run will be still okay?

            Many thanks.

            Shimul
            Run is fine and you would expect Q30 drop a bit more as cycle number increases. Read 2 quality will be lower than read 1 as well. Cluster density and PF% is calculated early in sequencing cycles and will not change.

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            • jlli2000
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4

              #66
              Mixed different 16S metagenomics run

              Does anyone have the experience of mixing different 16S 806R , 16S 926R and 18S libraries into one MiSeq run? How about mixing 16S onestep PCR libraries with two step PCR libraries?

              Thanks,

              Jin

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              • d00b
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 17

                #67
                you can mix multiple amplicons

                Hi Jin,

                we do run multiple amplicons that labeled with different index primers.
                However, we do always see index contamination in very low level.

                We do two step library preparation.
                1) amplification with Miseq adapter
                2) Index amplification with different index combination

                pool library based on realtime PCR result.
                Last edited by d00b; 01-10-2017, 01:35 PM.

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                • thermophile
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 243

                  #68
                  The biggest issue when mixing amplicons is the lenghts. I've successfully mixed 16s v4 (~300bp) with amplicons that are as small as 190bp and as large as 450 and run on 2x250. Your q30 plot will look weird, but I haven't had any of these mixed runs fail in a way that seems dependent on the mixing. Remember to calculate nM for each length and that the shorter frags will bind better than the longer ones.
                  Microbial ecologist, running a sequencing core. I have lots of strong opinions on how to survey communities, pretty sure some are even correct.

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                  • Jessica_L
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 117

                    #69
                    My lab is looking at bringing in the TruSight Tumor 15 assay. It seems like most of the v3 issues are related to low complexity libraries (16s RNA-seq reads, etc.) so I'm assuming that we'll be okay with the TST15? I'm wondering if we'll run into problems with some of our other methods, though. We also run the Archer Dx FusionPlex for RNA Fusion detection, and the molecular barcodes in assay have a low complexity region in read 1.

                    Does anyone have any experience with TST15 or other assays (aside from 16s rRNA) on the v3 chemistry?

                    Thanks!

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