A new perspective needed for a newbie

gerg · 01-30-2015, 03:40 AM

Hello. This might come off as a rant or you might think that I'm complaining but I hope it won't be like that at the end.

I'm on the first year of my MSc and started working in a bioinformatics lab. This was exactly what I planned a year ago, I'm glad that so far I've achieved what I wanted but there's that thing which is bugging me.

I have almost zero programming skills and never had any courses in bioinformatics before. Now I'm trying to teach myself Java as it is being used in the lab. At the same time I'm expected to learn R and also I'm a total stranger for many of the basic terms. I'm a person who needs to see the learning path completely to get motivated but in my case, other than learning programming, because I can follow a book as a guide, the information I could reach coming very scrappy: hearing one term and trying to learn what that actually means, for that needing to look into other five new terms in the definition of that term, finding out what another new weird name suppose to mean for that approach to that technology... etc. Yes, constant learning but they don't come together to shape something. And as a student who draws trees to understand connections between the subjects before starting to study something, that is utterly uncomfortable to me.

There's also another thing that me being one of the oldest in the lab and knowing the least amongst others which demotivates. People in the lab have that ego thing going on also as far as I can see, so so far asking questions didn't help me greatly. They are generally not bothered to break down the subjects and simplify the what and why we are doing what we are doing. I'm not blaming them though, it's not their responsibility to teach me stuff. But I'd like to say that it deepens the feeling of inadequacy.

Any advices?

PS. My English kind of sucks but I hope it's intelligible.

westerman · 01-30-2015, 12:05 PM

Sometimes a lab will not be a proper fit for a person thus, no matter how painful, a change of labs is needed.

That said, I suggest you just keep working and learning. Bioinformatics is a big subject. Graduate school is also a big deal. You are expected to keep yourself motivated and on-track.

Feel free to post questions here. A friendly community always helps.

karimse07 · 02-14-2015, 09:26 AM

i can we your partner to study bioinformatics and programming
my skype:karimse07,mail:karimse07@yahoo.com

jlkillian · 02-16-2015, 11:20 AM

I would strongly suggest you seek out some conventional avenues for learning programming and other areas in which you deem your knowledge insufficient. For example, classes at MIT opencourseware, Coursera or JAVA tutorials. The CodeAcademy Python tutorial is another great place to start.

You're in a bioinformatics lab, as you stated was your goal for at least a year, so you are interested in the area. You'll need programming, so learn it. You're a graduate student now, and no one's going to hand you the information, or the motivation, or the connections between the pieces. You can spin your wheels and reinvent the wheel one piece at a time, or just go out and power through some course material and learn to program.

jlkillian · 02-17-2015, 11:39 AM

Also, check out Rosalind: http://rosalind.info/problems/locations/

ravivc · 10-23-2018, 05:39 AM

I know about a programming introduction course of Java. This is codegym. The advantage here is that you'll have a Interactive walkthrough and buddies that will be able to help you.

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01-30-2015, 03:40 AM	#1
gerg Junior Member Location: Poland Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1	A new perspective needed for a newbie Hello. This might come off as a rant or you might think that I'm complaining but I hope it won't be like that at the end. I'm on the first year of my MSc and started working in a bioinformatics lab. This was exactly what I planned a year ago, I'm glad that so far I've achieved what I wanted but there's that thing which is bugging me. I have almost zero programming skills and never had any courses in bioinformatics before. Now I'm trying to teach myself Java as it is being used in the lab. At the same time I'm expected to learn R and also I'm a total stranger for many of the basic terms. I'm a person who needs to see the learning path completely to get motivated but in my case, other than learning programming, because I can follow a book as a guide, the information I could reach coming very scrappy: hearing one term and trying to learn what that actually means, for that needing to look into other five new terms in the definition of that term, finding out what another new weird name suppose to mean for that approach to that technology... etc. Yes, constant learning but they don't come together to shape something. And as a student who draws trees to understand connections between the subjects before starting to study something, that is utterly uncomfortable to me. There's also another thing that me being one of the oldest in the lab and knowing the least amongst others which demotivates. People in the lab have that ego thing going on also as far as I can see, so so far asking questions didn't help me greatly. They are generally not bothered to break down the subjects and simplify the what and why we are doing what we are doing. I'm not blaming them though, it's not their responsibility to teach me stuff. But I'd like to say that it deepens the feeling of inadequacy. Any advices? PS. My English kind of sucks but I hope it's intelligible.

02-14-2015, 09:26 AM	#3
karimse07 Junior Member Location: africa Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 8	partner i can we your partner to study bioinformatics and programming my skype:karimse07,mail:karimse07@yahoo.com

01-30-2015, 12:05 PM	#2
westerman Rick Westerman Location: Purdue University, Indiana, USA Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,104	Sometimes a lab will not be a proper fit for a person thus, no matter how painful, a change of labs is needed. That said, I suggest you just keep working and learning. Bioinformatics is a big subject. Graduate school is also a big deal. You are expected to keep yourself motivated and on-track. Feel free to post questions here. A friendly community always helps.

02-16-2015, 11:20 AM	#4
jlkillian Junior Member Location: Berkeley, CA Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2	I would strongly suggest you seek out some conventional avenues for learning programming and other areas in which you deem your knowledge insufficient. For example, classes at MIT opencourseware, Coursera or JAVA tutorials. The CodeAcademy Python tutorial is another great place to start. You're in a bioinformatics lab, as you stated was your goal for at least a year, so you are interested in the area. You'll need programming, so learn it. You're a graduate student now, and no one's going to hand you the information, or the motivation, or the connections between the pieces. You can spin your wheels and reinvent the wheel one piece at a time, or just go out and power through some course material and learn to program.

02-17-2015, 11:39 AM	#5
jlkillian Junior Member Location: Berkeley, CA Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2	Also, check out Rosalind: http://rosalind.info/problems/locations/

10-23-2018, 05:39 AM	#6
ravivc Junior Member Location: Kiev Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 1	I know about a programming introduction course of Java. This is codegym. The advantage here is that you'll have a Interactive walkthrough and buddies that will be able to help you.