Covaris M220 or S220?

erlandsen · 08-06-2012, 04:16 AM

Hi all!

Working in a lab about to install the HiSeq system.

We expect a throughput of about 48 samples a week.

But we are stuggling what shearing unit to buy; the Covaris M220 or the Covaris S220?

Anyone that have an opinion about this feel free to respond.

erl

dalib · 08-07-2012, 03:32 AM

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ECO · 08-07-2012, 02:13 PM

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ECO · 08-07-2012, 02:20 PM

To try to be helpful, 48 all at once? Or staggered throughout the week?

The big 96-well systems are a huge step up in investment for that low of throughput if it's sprinkled throughout the week. The single tube system could totally handle that much if so. But the 96-well system is _great_ for reproducibility and walk-away automation, and will definitely give you a lot of room to grow. We don't think twice about shearing full plates now...toss it in in the PM and it's waiting for you in the morning.

erlandsen · 08-07-2012, 11:58 PM

Thanks a lot for the replies, but I am sure we would not need a 96 well systeme and we will not have an bioruptor.

Both M- and S- series machine from covaris is single tube systemes, but the M-series is half the price of the S-series. So is the M-series just a cheap version of the S-series, but is it giving the same quality results?

erlandsen

luc · 08-19-2012, 11:22 AM

Looks like the M220 needs pricier microtubes (40% higher price). They might allow higher recovery though.
From what I gather from the Covaris site, the M machine needs no waiting time but perhaps operates at 20 degrees instead of seven degrees C.

Turnerac0987 · 09-24-2012, 08:55 AM

I just bought the M220 and I'm very impressed with it so far. The cheaper price is what attracted me to it since it would have been very hard for our lab to afford the S series. The other advantage is the smaller bench footprint. There is only the instrument and no other chillers to take up space. The computer also fits on top of the instrument.

As far as I can tell, the M220 is just a smaller version of the S220. There is no chiller (you operate at 20 degrees) so there's no wait time. You use a whole lot less water as well. It's so extremely easy to set up and use compared to the S220 (and that one is pretty easy too). So far my results have been even more consistent and with tighter bands than when I used the S220. All in all, I'm very happy with it and would recommend it to any lab. I can't think of any reason to get the S220 over the M220 now that it's out.

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08-06-2012, 04:16 AM	#1
erlandsen Junior Member Location: Trondheim Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 6	Covaris M220 or S220? Hi all! Working in a lab about to install the HiSeq system. We expect a throughput of about 48 samples a week. But we are stuggling what shearing unit to buy; the Covaris M220 or the Covaris S220? Anyone that have an opinion about this feel free to respond. erl

08-07-2012, 03:32 AM	#2
dalib Junior Member Location: london Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 6	Unhelpful off topic commercial content deleted Last edited by ECO; 08-07-2012 at 03:41 PM. Reason: Unhelpful off topic commercial content deleted

08-07-2012, 02:20 PM	#4
ECO --Site Admin-- Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,358	To try to be helpful, 48 all at once? Or staggered throughout the week? The big 96-well systems are a huge step up in investment for that low of throughput if it's sprinkled throughout the week. The single tube system could totally handle that much if so. But the 96-well system is _great_ for reproducibility and walk-away automation, and will definitely give you a lot of room to grow. We don't think twice about shearing full plates now...toss it in in the PM and it's waiting for you in the morning.

08-07-2012, 11:58 PM	#5
erlandsen Junior Member Location: Trondheim Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 6	Thanks a lot for the replies, but I am sure we would not need a 96 well systeme and we will not have an bioruptor. Both M- and S- series machine from covaris is single tube systemes, but the M-series is half the price of the S-series. So is the M-series just a cheap version of the S-series, but is it giving the same quality results? erlandsen

08-19-2012, 11:22 AM	#6
luc Senior Member Location: US Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 452	Looks like the M220 needs pricier microtubes (40% higher price). They might allow higher recovery though. From what I gather from the Covaris site, the M machine needs no waiting time but perhaps operates at 20 degrees instead of seven degrees C.

09-24-2012, 08:55 AM	#7
Turnerac0987 Member Location: Baltimore, MD Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 15	I just bought the M220 and I'm very impressed with it so far. The cheaper price is what attracted me to it since it would have been very hard for our lab to afford the S series. The other advantage is the smaller bench footprint. There is only the instrument and no other chillers to take up space. The computer also fits on top of the instrument. As far as I can tell, the M220 is just a smaller version of the S220. There is no chiller (you operate at 20 degrees) so there's no wait time. You use a whole lot less water as well. It's so extremely easy to set up and use compared to the S220 (and that one is pretty easy too). So far my results have been even more consistent and with tighter bands than when I used the S220. All in all, I'm very happy with it and would recommend it to any lab. I can't think of any reason to get the S220 over the M220 now that it's out.