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The position file formats ".clocs" and "_pos.txt"? Ist there any difference? | elgor | Illumina/Solexa | 0 | 06-27-2011 08:55 AM |
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![]() ![]() Science has just released the first publication detailing real data from the Heliscope. They undertook the extremely exciting project of resequencing the M13 genome ( ![]() Quote:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten...t/320/5872/106 I'm reading it as we speak, and would welcome interpretations of the data! |
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Official press release here:
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It does not take much to boost their stock price - up 40% within a week !!
Their paper is rather a proof of concept than the presentation of a machine that can compete in the nextgen seq market. |
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Something else I noticed, in their introduction they bad mouth the library preparation protocols for all the other platforms, basically saying that adding adapters is labor intensive, etc, then they go on to prove that they absolutely MUST use adapters to get bidirectional reads because their error rates are so high.
Seems like C incorporations are a killer... |
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Actually their stock price went up initially a week ago when they announced the sale of the first machine to http://www.expressionanalysis.com/ . Is actually the second time they announced the first sale. They do not tell what Expression Analysis payed for or how much Helicos had to pay to make them try the machine. May be the will resequence bacteriophage lambda soon. Is about four times the size of M13.
At the current cash burn rate Helicos has enough cash for about a year or so -> they absolutely need positive news to at least temporarily drive the stock price up. |
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Lol, but remember that this experiment was done on a pre-production machine, using only one lane (out of 2x25 per run) with about 100x coverage per strand. And the obvious advantage is the lack of amplicication bias, not that you dont have to ligate linkers. And multipass readings are not the same as bidirectional reads. I guess we will se more in the coming days but if they could come close to what they say it will be hard times for SOLiD / Solexa sytems to compete at the current reagent costs...
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Hi,
Helicos seems to to be so popular here ![]() Well, bells and whistles about M13 was maybe not such a wise decision... However, I currently analyze a data set I received from Helicos. A DGE study from a human tissue. I have to say - looks pretty good. Can´t tell more here... NDA! But to summarize: biological results absolutely comparable to such derived from Solexa! I think they get their act together. Cheers Klaus |
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Hi Klaus,
good to see that they are generating usable data with the Heliscope. Could you share any numbers from the sequencing or is that also under NDA?... |
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Chipper,
I´ll see what I can do. But not before next week. I cant access our secure servers from here... Klaus |
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Okay,
what I can share are numbers from our first step analysis after mapping. Mapping was very stringent: best unique hit (= at least one shortest unique sub-sequence contained, point mutations allowed, no indels allowed): here the summary: The data set contains reads from the following organism: Homo sapiens 4020914 Read length (bp) number 11 86 12 1333 13 6904 14 20384 15 49695 16 91159 17 131835 18 153064 19 166469 20 164352 21 169349 22 171943 23 178216 24 185147 25 210388 26 230526 27 245471 28 178388 29 168223 30 143917 31 135030 32 122484 33 113991 34 106351 35 98137 36 90642 37 83322 38 77510 39 70555 40 63349 41 56651 42 50235 43 44120 44 38896 45 34378 46 30472 47 26112 48 22580 49 18993 50 15407 51 12211 52 9602 53 7529 54 5801 55 4115 56 2990 57 2174 58 1517 59 1204 60 953 61 821 62 623 63 664 64 700 65 464 66 572 67 514 68 655 69 356 70 400 71 287 72 158 73 140 74 103 75 80 76 55 77 33 78 25 79 26 80 7 81 15 82 4 83 7 84 1 85 1 86 4 87 3 88 2 89 2 90 3 92 2 93 3 94 6 95 1 96 4 98 1 101 1 102 2 107 1 110 1 112 1 113 3 116 2 123 1 Annotation: Intergenic regions 1810570558bp 58.8% Promoters 44676168bp 1.5% Exons 97616725bp 3.2% Introns 1172232197bp 38.1% Read distribution: Intergenic regions 1694883 42.2% Promoters 325016 8.1% Exon 1079293 26.8% Intron 1167470 29.0% Partial 79268 2.0% ======================= Next step: clustering summary output: Cluster detection: window size: 100 reads/window: 7 probability.: 1.1e-10 clusters detected: 35496 reads in clusters: 2118299 52.68% min. cluster length: 13 max. cluster length: 5876 avg. cluster length: 117 min. number of reads: 7 max. number of reads: 251937 avg. number of reads: 59 Classification intergenic regions 10945 30.8% promoters 3369 9.5% exon 10501 29.6% intron 8883 25.0% partial 5167 14.6% ========================== expression analysis: analyzed transcripts: 85562 expressed transcripts: 72514 84.8% normalized expression value (NE): minimum: 0.000 maximum: 95.675 average: 0.061 analyzed loci: 32514 expressed loci: 26160 80.5% NE Transcripts (0.000:0.020] 48993 (0.020:0.040] 9557 (0.040:0.060] 4390 (0.060:0.080] 2294 (0.080:0.100] 1465 (0.100:0.120] 1020 (0.120:0.140] 707 (0.140:0.160] 576 (0.160:0.180] 453 (0.180:0.200] 353 (0.200:0.220] 245 (0.220:0.240] 251 (0.240:0.260] 174 (0.260:0.280] 166 (0.280:0.300] 131 (0.300:0.320] 121 (0.320:0.340] 100 (0.340:0.360] 69 (0.360:0.380] 81 (0.380:0.400] 107 (0.400:95.675] 1261 ==================================== This was very crude first analysis run at all parameters default. Mapping on our mapping station took 10 minutes (parameters for best unique are least time consuming) Rest of analysis took 7 minutes on GGA. Cheers Klaus |
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Klaus,
thanks for sharing the numbers, it sure looks promising. Was this data from one lane only? |
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The raw reads were pooled from two channels.
Again, this was a quick and dirty first pass. Mapped tag numbers can be increased significantly with more relaxed mapping parameters. However, downstream pathway mining of the expressed transcripts 100% confirms the biological context of the sample. Klaus |
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There is a tree with shortest unique words for each position in the genome. This shortest unique word matches exactly once in the genome. E.g. one starts with a tuple of 5 checks uniqueness, increases one bp, checks uniqueness,6..,7.. 8.. and so on until the "word" is unique. SNPs are taken into account. This library of shortest unique words has a variable length. For mapping parameters can be introduced: point mutations and indels within those shortest unique words. For "unique best match" none of the above is allowed (=most stringent). Reads from Helicos were checked whether they contain at least one exact shortest unique word in full. Then around this position, alignmet grows into the read in both directions. Here point mutations were allowed, no limit imposed. At this growth, in this case, SNPs were not taken into account. So several of the observed point mutations can originate from a SNP. Very basic statistics: Point mutations # of reads 0 509622 1 369486 2 318733 3 313244 4 297974 5 297301 6 298140 7 344822 8 233730 9 191911 10 153682 11 131893 12 113460 13 98302 14 82719 15 69071 16 57540 17 46855 18 37505 19 30710 20 24214 Keep in mind that we have read lengths up to 123 bp. The above numbers need to be normalized to read length and length and count of shortest unique words contained. |
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