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  • carmeyeii
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 137

    In DESeq, should one estimate sizeFactors and Dispersion in a pairwise fashion?

    When using DESeq, does one also need to import two conditions each time to do the estimatesizefactor and estimatedispersions?

    Can one import all conditions (>=3) together, and estimante sizefactors and dispersion together, and then do the negative binomial test in a pairwise manner?

    Thanks!
  • amcloon
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 15

    #2
    I'm not sure if you worked out an answer to this yourself, but my observation is that you can set up the count table with either a subset of conditions (just A and B) or all conditions (A, B, C) with all suitable replicates and do the size estimates, dispersion estimates off of either size of count table. Then, for the actual differential expression calling, you just specify which you are interested in...
    >res=nbinomTest(cds,"A","B")

    Don't ask me, though, which size count table you -should- use for dispersion estimation, though.

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    • sdriscoll
      I like code
      • Sep 2009
      • 436

      #3
      If your conditions are very different, having more conditions in the count matrix when estimating dispersions than you'll use in a pair wise test can severely impact the dispersion estimates relative to the tested pair's actual dispersion. So, yes, separate out the paired conditions prior to estimating dispersions.
      /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
      Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

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      • chadn737
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 392

        #4
        If you have sufficient biological replicates you can estimate the dispersions for each condition separately by method="per-condition"

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        • sdriscoll
          I like code
          • Sep 2009
          • 436

          #5
          That's right. I should add that what I noted is true if you're using the "pooled" or "blind" methods for dispersion estimation.
          /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
          Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

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